Having a credit card to fall back on can dissuade you from building a proper emergency fund. I think this happens for a couple reasons. First, with credit you already have a safety net in place. That’s actually one of the reasons many people get credit cards in the first place. Though this can quickly blow up in your face because you could be taking on debt at the exact time it gets most difficult to pay it back. It amazes me how many people grab their credit cards right after a job loss and began using high interest cash advances for everyday life at the exact worse time to be borrowing money. I think having the cards as a safety net allows people to feel like they’re covered so the urgency to save really isn’t there.

Second, I think another reason people don’t build emergency savings when they use cards is because they’re constantly working to clear the debts. Instead of making savings a priority they make keeping up with the card balances a priority. The more debt they have on their cards the less they have available to save and the more likely they’ll need the cards to cover their butts again and so the cycle continues.  

At some point if you want to go with out credit cards you need to break the cycle of spending instead of saving. I personally stashed away a little dough to use for future “emergencies” then stopped using the cards. Once I stopped using the cards and had some real money in the bank to fall back on all I really had to do was eliminate the balances and at that point I was done with the credit card cycle. I had no use for them anymore. I now have an emergency fund with more money available to me than I ever had available on my credit cards…oh and it’s earning interest too.

The good news is Mark has decided, for the first time ever, to start saving. He’s now quickly building an emergency fund since this’ll be his only safety net going forward. It looks like with a little encouragement and some discipline our buddy Mark won’t be “financially retarded” too much longer…at least that’s the plan.

So what’s your plan for dealing with credit cards, do you want them gone, do you really need them around? Let me know how you feel about this.

 Since my wife and I are trying to reach some specific financial goals we are kind of strict about any money that we blow. The dollar amount that would trigger my wives fury while we were trying to eliminate our personal debts (I know this may sound insanely low to many of you) was around $25. Do remember though that my wife is a saver by nature and I’m the one that liked to spend. Also remember that I’m talking about spending money that wasn’t in our spending plan – I’m not talking about things like food, gas, needed things around the house, car maintenance etc. – I’m talking about things we hadn’t planned for like a cool $52 sweatshirt, or a $175 replacement for the broken cell phone – you know that sort of stuff.

Now that our debts have been cleared (with help from some learned behaviors like this one) our spending threshold has now been adjusted accordingly. We’re now closer to the $80-$100 range for “free” spending. Now that we’ve worked so hard to always discuss and share our finances we usually talk about most things over $50 anyway (note that we talk about it…not fight about it). Hopefully one day with enough hard work and discipline when I surprise my wife with the new Cadillac she wants and the only discussion we’ll have will be where we’re taking it for dinner that night and who gets to drive – now there’s the spending threshold I’m shooting for!

Agreed upon spending limits is where a couple’s shared finances can really help a couple succeed over the long term due to the unavoidable accountability. How’s the saying go? “At some point he’ll have to come home!”

What dollar amount do you feel you should have agreement with your spouse before buying something as to avoid your home turning into a bad Jerry Springer episode?  If you’re single at what dollar amount do you feel you’ve let yourself down buy spending too much?

I think for many reasons debt can often do more harm than good, especially over the long term. Not just financial damage but emotional, relational, and sometime physical damage. Debt is not always a bad thing to have and in some cases it can work out. Though in my opinion for a lot of people and a lot of  situations it’s very often either dumb or unnecessary. In Ron Blue’s book The Debt Squeeze he addresses when he feels it is okay to borrow money and carry the debt. He lays this out in four simple rules that I’ll summarize for you:

Rule 1: Common Sense; this rule is pretty straight forward. You need to seriously consider what this debt will do to/for your life. Will the payments stress you family, your business, yourself? Are you making a mistake at some level by bringing this into your life? Will this be a blessing now and in the future of are you signing up for another future financial disaster and just justifying it somehow? Does this purchase fit well into your financial plan and future goals?

Rule 2: A Guaranteed way to repay; this is the rule that caught my attention (it’s a good one so stay with me!)  Can you guarantee repayment for this debt? I’m not talking about promising all of next year’s paychecks, I’m talking about a guaranteed way to repay. What this means to me is not borrowing money towards things that cannot stand good for themselves. Real estate is a great example. A mortgage is secured against the value of the property itself – assuming you had a proper down payment or solid equity when purchased. If you can’t make the payments in theory the value of the asset would stand good for the debt liability. Purchasing a business may also fall into this category assuming you are buying true assets and not just a process or name.  

A car (especially new) almost never falls into the guaranteed repayment category. This is due to the value of vehicles dropping too fast. Cars almost never increase in value (well not the kind you drive anyway). So unless you are borrowing $1,000 on a $12,000 car I doubt a financed vehicle can truly stand good for the purchase on its own. I know this sucks but how many people do you know with a financed car can sell the vehicle and clear the debt with the proceeds from the day they drive it home and through the life of the loan? That’s not a guaranteed way to repay.

Sometimes you can pledge the value of one asset as collateral for another financed asset. If you have the ability to take that route then you may have fulfilled Rule #2 and if you’re okay with that then I’m okay with that!

Obviously there are many variables to consider for Rule #2 but this part of the debt decision deserves some serious consideration and some honest answers to some tricky “what if” questions. Can you remove this debt burden from your life if necessary without being kicked in your financial groin? If you can’t answer yes to that question stop right here and reconsider.

Rule 3: Peace of heart and mind; Rule 3 is a bit more spiritual than the others in my opinion. How is this debt going to make you feel? Are you going to beat yourself up over the next five years for making a quick decision? Are you going to unintentionally going to forgo some big goal in the future for a pick-me-up right now? Will you lock yourself in to a job you don’t really want because you strapped yourself with a house payment you can barely cover? Will you put off your saving for the kiddo’s college to drive a new truck? Will you be able to sleep at night after you sign on the line?

Rule 4: Unity; This rule is easy to explain. This rule relates to married folks or people partnering with someone else in one way or another. Basically what is being said here is if you’re going to be in debt you need to be on the same page with your spouse or partners on what is happening and what is going to happen in the future. That’s really it. The two of you need to have a solid agreement and commitment to carry the burden together as one.

So assuming you can come to terms on all of these four rules a particular debt may not be such a bad thing in your life. That said, if for any reason you question don’t have a solid honest answer for any of these rules you may be buying a ticket for a ride you didn’t really plan on taking. Financial decisions should be very deliberate and well thought out no matter what dollar amount is involved. Slow down, take a little time and consider all your options then move forward deliberately and cautiously – every time

Once I received the news that evening my wife and I decided we needed to travel three states away and we needed to leave that night (and I’m not talking about crossing three of those little East Coast states, I’m talking about crossing three big fat West Coast states). When we were discussing our options about flying, driving, going or not going, a funny thing happened that was sort of new to us…not once during our discussion did my wife or myself ask the question “Do we have enough money” or “How much will it cost?”  We knew stuffed away in a local credit union was had everything we needed to do whatever we needed to do.

At 2am, within couple hours of receiving the emotional news Mrs. Financio, Mrs. Financio JR, and myself found ourselves in the SUV, making a quick stop at the ATM to grab some cash then we made a break for the border(s).

18 months ago this whole scheme would have played out a bit differently. It likely would have involved some unpleasant discussions about money and credit cards and bills and gas money, all are the last things I want to talk about when things complicated. After all was said and done there was no debt incurred, there was no discussion about the money involved in making the trip. We were free to do what we felt we needed to do without any concern for the dollars involved. This unexpected trip that came about by a huge loss in my life was in a way also huge success for me financially and, proof that some sacrifice and good decision making can pay off in big ways that can’t be explained in terms of dollars. The crazy part was that this came right on the heels of our Serious Budget Busting Week I think somebody out there is testing me to see if I’m really serious about this whole debt free thing!

How long could you cover your household living expenses with your current liquid savings? This survey of 2,318 adults 18 & older asked how long people could survive on the liquid money they had available. It proves how unprepared many Americans are with less emergency money available than the professional financial nerds out there recommend.

• Less than one week 17%
• One week - one month 14%
• One month - 90 days 24%
• Three - six months 10%
• Six months or more 19%
• Declined to answer 17%

The scary numbers are the first two. 31% don’t think they could make it a month. That’s a scary state of affairs for a lot of people out there. Most advisers recommend 3-6 months in liquid money. According to this survey only a third of Americans measure up to those recommendations though it sounds like from recent reports the current economy may have scared some more money into savings accounts over the last year or so. From my experience lately though people have been spending more time whining about being broke than actually doing something about it…I guess we’ll see the next time “it rains!”

So how does  your family measure up? Post a comment and lets us know (don’t worry you can even use a fakie name if that makes you feel better about yourself)

*Survey source: LexisNexis Martindale-Hubbell’s Lawyers.com survey of 2,318 adults 18 and older.

When the blind lead the blind…get the hell out of the way!

Have you ever heard that saying? Well as stupid as the saying is it actually has some solid logic to behind it. When I was first working to take out my debts I got some great advice from someone that makes quite a heck of a lot more money than I do (I know that’s hard to believe). Anyway…he told me “never hire an accountant whose client list includes people that make less money than you do.” In other words always look for people that can help you grow into more than you are now instead of the opposite.  

This advice stands true with most of the advice we receive around money (and most anything else for that matter).  If somebody isn’t successful with the particular advice they’re giving why should you not be a bit skeptical?  This is exactly what many do with our money decision each day. Often we take counsel from people who make poor money decisions. Sometime it’s formal counsel like an advisor and sometimes it’s just a couple guys hanging out having a beer bs’n about a new ski boat. In either case always step back for a second and ask “where’s this information really coming from? 

In a business sales seminar I was once taught to “mentally step back” from a negotiation and pretend you are looking in on the conversation like an outsider. The idea being as an observer of both parties you get a better idea of where each party is coming from and where they’re trying to go. Whenever I receive money advice I do this as well, not in lame close my eyes and go to my “happy place” kind of way, but I try to step back and take an intentionally subjective look at what’s being said. Who’s saying it, What they’re saying, Where has their experience and/or expertise come from, Why are they really telling this to me, etc. Also you must always understand that some things rub off on us with or without an actual conversation, especially from friends and family. Always be alert to what people around you are saying and doing. If everybody around you is driving around in financed cars or living in homes with absurd mortgages you may find yourself taking their cues.  

With your money you need to be cautious of where you get your guidance. You must always be objective with new information. You must always consider who it’s coming from, where they are coming from, why they are passing these nuggets on to you, and what it has to do with you. Why would you allow people who continually make poor money decisions to advise you on your finances? Sad thing is we all do this stupid move everyday and often don’t even realize its happening.

So what steps can you take to avoid unintentionally honoring advice from broke people?

• Have a solid financial plan – you don’t have to be rich or have your plan completed but clearly knowing where you are going and how you intend to get there will help you do what you feel is correct not what others tell you is correct.
• Continue learning – the more you know the better information you will have to make more sound decisions. You don’t have to be a genius with your money but if you know more you will have more option available to you
• This is a big one….Don’t hang around with broke people! Okay, that’s a bit harsh but seriously if the people around you are not helping you reach your goals maybe you should consider how you interact with them. I’m not saying stop talking to your broke family, coworkers or friends (unless you want to, you can blame it on me I don’t mind) but if they’re dragging you out to dinner or continually convince you to do things that you really can’t afford this might be a good time to reevaluate when & where & how you spend time with certain people. They may unintentionally be creating obstacles to you reaching your goals.     

Step back and look at the advice, influence, or sales pressure and only then can you make a clear decision on your next move. Figure out what works best for you to keep yourself on track and always remember who you’re listening to because sometimes you don’t even realize you’re listening to them (and there’s a fairly reasonable chance they’re an idiot)

1. The third week of October is apparently our week for eating dinners out. Sunday we took my wife’s mother out just to enjoy her company and thank her for watching our daughter five days a week for free (I figure that’s worth tossing some Thai food her way every once in a while). Monday we I needed to pick up my vehicle (I’ll get to that one in a minute!) so that lead to another dinner out. Though this time we were hooked up with a $10 off online coupon so that covered the beer. Tuesday, my favorite aunt was in town for a business conference so once again we headed downtown to catch up over some chow. Friday we find ourselves at a rehearsal dinner for a friend’s wedding – true, the dinner is free but the baby’s new outfit necessary for flower girl duty…well that’s not so free! I consider this a dinner related expense.
2. Saturday gets pricey downtown again even with our crazy hookups! Due to the above mentioned wedding we spent the weekend in a downtown hotel suite. True we only live 30 minutes from downtown but with the baby and a lot to do we decided to get a place to stay in the city. With my wife’s crazy hotel hookups (she works in sales in the hotel business so she knows everybody that matters) we got the room for less than a third of the regular price. And since I worked my crappy second “get out of debt” job as a valet at this same high-end hotel the $38 per night parking fee only cost me a smile and a couple fist-bumps with the ex-coworkers.
3. The crazy hookups continued to ease the pain through the weekend but we still dropped some dough.  Saturday my hot little sales-lady wife pulls some more strings and we find ourselves at the Zoo with $30 worth of free passes. Well free that is if you exclude the $5.00 parking, the $12.00 snack and the $7.00 Starbuck’s drive-by on the way there. I guess that’s the cost of some beautiful moments with my little girl. And you can’t buy that at your local Wal-Mart!
4. The wedding Saturday night had no official cover charge. Dinner was provided by our hosts but there was a gift purchase involved so in a way there was a cover charge. No big deal though, dinner was good and it was all so terribly romantic that it probably would have induced vomiting if any outsiders were watching. (take a moment here and wipe your eyes – I know, I’m a little choked up as well).
5. Here was our big budget killer this week! I had the pleasure of forking over the money to replace the engine in my SUV.  This expense stung like hell but the good news is since I got such a sweet deal on the car (once again Viny Financio and his fist full $100’s talked louder than the seller’s asking price) I was still right at Blue Book value even after we dropped in the new engine. Of course this was due to me having a very good friend that does this sort of stuff for a living so instead of laying out the estimated $6,800 I was in it less than $4k I’m glad we were able to cover all this with cash from our emergency fund because they don’t accept credit cards for homie-hookups! And thanks to another good friend I also managed to get by without needing to rent another PT Cruiser/death Trap.

So all-in-all this week cost us right around $4,500 not including our regular living expenses! Things did work out though, and it helped that October is double a Magic Month for us. In a way though I still feel sort of like I was accidentally kicked it in the groin by my own friends and my own possessions but we’re still rolling FinancialFreakShow debt free and we’ll keep fighting but I promise you Vinny Financio will keep fighting dirty!

The first reason is because this simplifies my life greatly in several ways. One I don’t have the stress of debt hanging over me every minute of every day. Second I don’t have many bills to keep track of and pay every month (I currently pay 8 bills each month and half of those are deducted automatically).

The second reason is the big one for me. Taking debts out of the equation means my income is no longer being used to support those debts. Not paying these payments means my income is now free to invest, spend & save. When debt is sucking your income out of your hands as fast (or faster) than you earn it you cripple yourself. You spend your energy and, more importantly, your time trying to climb a mountain you have the weight of payment books trying to drag you back down. You spend your days trying to make money for someone else – I don’t like that feeling.

So by eliminating debt payments you simplify your life and free up energy and cash that can be used towards more productive goals like retirement planning and building wealth. How hard would it be to stash away 15% of your income towards retirement if you had no car payments, credit card payments, or student loan payments? If you don’t believe me calculate your debt to income ratio then swing by the local old people farm and ask them what they would do differently if they had the chance. I’m sure they’ll be more than happy to give you their take on credit cards and car payments.

According to my calculations if I would have stuck to the $5 a day plan every stinking day I would be completely debt free in approximately 21,400 days. Not a bad deal…if I wanted to be debt free around my 90th birthday! Actually it’s more likely I’d be debt free well before that because at some point I’d have to kill myself over it. Of course then my wife could bank the insurance $money$. Anyway, where was I? So at the time the thought of removing all my debt at the rate of $150 a month seemed laughable, but the idea behind the book made perfect sense. The idea was to get in the habit of paying your debts before you had the opportunity to spend your money on something else. At the time I took the book at face value I think because I was desperate for a solution. Now that I look back at it the book makes perfect sense even though the numbers don’t jive. In may posts Micro Paymentality & Sick Day Bonus Pay I talk about how this exact idea can work only on a larger scale. The idea is to fight like hell to find extra money each month then apply it to your bills.

If you manage to get a grasp on your finances and put a couple of the basics into place like a household budget and an emergency fund to prevent you from needing more credit to get by, the $5 a day idea could actually work. No matter how much you can manage to eek out of your budget, as long as you can eek out something, if you put it towards your debts before you allow it to wander out of your life, and assuming you don’t rack up any new debt, you’ll eventually become debt free. Though in my case I busted it and used what I affectionately call the Vinny Financio’s Debt Free on $60 a Day Plan and it worked. I guess I was just a little too impatient to wait until I was 90 or dead to live like this.

I will say this, I am proud of her for making some more “grown up” decisions regarding her finances but I honestly think this is a waste of her time…and I let her know that (I know I seriously need a better opinion filter, but whatever). I told her that I doubt a $15 CD is really hurting her finances at all. I then told her that her newer car, her new couch and her new $2600 bull dog she bought with a cash advance with her credit card were her problem. Cutting CD’s out of the budget is cute but you’d have better luck trying to pick up a turd from the clean end! Seriously though if you think squeezing $50 a month out of your budget you haven’t address the actual problem…..YOU! 

The CD’s aren’t your problem girl. Your lack of planning & your lack of discipline are your problem. If you actually want to change the way you spend money then change the way you spend your money…ALL OF IT. Don’t just change the parts that are easy. Change all the parts that are broken, change the parts that hurt, change the parts that are will truly make a difference. Don’t try to nickel and dime your way out of 20k, 50k, 100k in debt cause we all know you sure as hell didn’t get in 20k, 50k or 100 worth of debt buying CD’s so why do you think this will ever get you out (if you did get in debt buying CD’s get your butt on Craigslist tonight and start selling!) Get out there and get mad, break something…break the habits that got you to this place. If you don’t at least try you will have no one to blame but yourself. True, it may not be only your fault you ended up here but will be your fault if you stay here (especially if you don’t want to be here).

So take a lesson from my friend and stop buying those CD’s if that’s what you need to do. Then take a lesson from Vinny Financio’s real financial world and cut deep into your lifestyle to the point it hurts, stop buying all the other garbage too until you have your stupid messes cleaned up. And then we’ll go drop some cash baby!

Rule 1: Common Sense; this rule is pretty straight forward. You need to seriously consider what this debt will do to/for your life. Will the payments stress you family, your business, yourself? Are you making a mistake at some level by bringing this into your life? Will this be a blessing now and in the future of are you signing up for another future financial disaster and just justifying it somehow? Does this purchase fit well into your financial plan and future goals?

Rule 2: A Guaranteed way to repay; this is the rule that caught my attention (it’s a good one so stay with me!)  Can you guarantee repayment for this debt? I’m not talking about promising all of next year’s paychecks, I’m talking about a guaranteed way to repay. What this means to me is not borrowing money towards things that cannot stand good for themselves. Real estate is a great example. A mortgage is secured against the value of the property itself – assuming you had a proper down payment or solid equity when purchased. If you can’t make the payments in theory the value of the asset would stand good for the debt liability. Purchasing a business may also fall into this category assuming you are buying true assets and not just a process or name.  

A car (especially new) almost never falls into the guaranteed repayment category. This is due to the value of vehicles dropping too fast. Cars almost never increase in value (well not the kind you drive anyway). So unless you are borrowing $1,000 on a $12,000 car I doubt a financed vehicle can truly stand good for the purchase on its own. I know this sucks but how many people do you know with a financed car can sell the vehicle and clear the debt with the proceeds from the day they drive it home and through the life of the loan? That’s not a guaranteed way to repay.

Sometimes you can pledge the value of one asset as collateral for another financed asset. If you have the ability to take that route then you may have fulfilled Rule #2 and if you’re okay with that then I’m okay with that!

Obviously there are many variables to consider for Rule #2 but this part of the debt decision deserves some serious consideration and some honest answers to some tricky “what if” questions. Can you remove this debt burden from your life if necessary without being kicked in your financial groin? If you can’t answer yes to that question stop right here and reconsider.

Rule 3: Peace of heart and mind; Rule 3 is a bit more spiritual than the others in my opinion. How is this debt going to make you feel? Are you going to beat yourself up over the next five years for making a quick decision? Are you going to unintentionally going to forgo some big goal in the future for a pick-me-up right now? Will you lock yourself in to a job you don’t really want because you strapped yourself with a house payment you can barely cover? Will you put off your saving for the kiddo’s college to drive a new truck? Will you be able to sleep at night after you sign on the line?

Rule 4: Unity; This rule is easy to explain. This rule relates to married folks or people partnering with someone else in one way or another. Basically what is being said here is if you’re going to be in debt you need to be on the same page with your spouse or partners on what is happening and what is going to happen in the future. That’s really it. The two of you need to have a solid agreement and commitment to carry the burden together as one.

So assuming you can come to terms on these four rules this debt may not be such a bad thing in your life. That said, if for any reason you question don’t have a solid honest answer for any of these rules you may be buying a ticket for a ride you didn’t really plan on taking. Financial decisions should be very deliberate and well thought out no matter what dollar amount is involved. Slow down, take a little time and consider all your options then move forward deliberately and cautiously – every time   

Do you agree with these 4 rules? Have you taken on debt without considering one of these principles? How’d that work out for you? Please share.

Enjoy the following guest post – and when you get to the part about “a very wise man” and “single-handedly did something Superman and an army of super heroes couldn’t have done” remember that me she’s talking about- oh yeah!

‘Deployment money” a military wife’s favorite words. Visions of Coach Bags and spa trips dance through her head while trying to fight back the tears as her husband boards the plane. We all do it, yet most of us won’t admit it. This time though I’m taking this deployment to a whole new level. I’m on a mission to go down in the military spouse hall of fame as the one who passed the Coach bags in the Exchange and with a disdainful smirk I head to the children’s section for the half priced shoes. Ever notice they put those gorgeous bags right in the front walkway of the store? I am on the road to paying off all of our debt. All of it, all $125,000 in credit cards, car loans, and the boat. Our awesome boat – yup, the one we can’t afford to put gas in.

Thank you to a very wise man who, in a 20 minute conversation, single-handedly did something Superman and an army of super heroes couldn’t have done. Got me (of my own free will no less) to pull every credit card out of my wallet, wrap them pretty in a rubber band and throw them in a drawer I affectionately call the “junk drawer.” Fitting name huh? I then proceeded to break the news to my husband. We sat down and had what was probably the most open and honest discussion about our finances in almost nine years of marriage. We mapped out a plan TOGETHER, figured out where we could cut back, then celebrated… by eating our first dinner at home in a long time! (a personal apology to all Olive Garden shareholders).

Using my husband’s first “deployment money” that came in from a recent short trip, I paid off the lowest balance debt. Seeing that first zero was almost as exciting as a new pair of shoes. The second zero balance I have achieved almost made me… well you get it.

It’s a game now. I created a sweet little excel spreadsheet staying true to my “excel goddess” nickname that auto-calculates our totals, gives me the percentage paid down on each debt and the total percentage of debt paid off to date. Are you ready for this? 10.24% in 2 weeks. TWO WEEKS!! That’s about $12,000 of worry, stress and interest we’ll never have to pay on again!! He leaves again in a few weeks for 6 months this time. And I will sit in my office every day and secretly curse all of the women telling stories of the money they spent the past weekends on shoes, clothes and manicures, and I think of all the things our family can do with our money when he comes home. Things like a family vacation paid for with actual money. All out of our bank account instead of on credit cards. Amazing.

I have a feeling the next 6 months is going to change the rest of their lives. So do you think she can pull it off? Do you think somebody’s going to get hurt if they stand in her way?

Please take a second and add an encouraging comment.