The program itself started out by revealing the history of how credit card companies positioned themselves to take advantage of a lack of regulation in some states. They then went on to discuss how the companies then came to exploit the lack of regulation to take care advantage of the consumer/borrower (told you they were biased…but then again so am I).  I’m not going to suck the life out of you with the intricacies if the credit card business here today but I will say the more I pay attention to the business the more I wonder, aside from the stock holders, who is really benefiting from their practices. The one thing I found surprising was how many ex-credit card industry professionals came out to speak against industry practices.  

Now I’m not here to completely bad mouth these guys but it does reinforce to me why I choose to find other options than credit cards. Remember these consumers, including myself, signed up for this ride and if you don’t understand the contract maybe you shouldn’t be so quick to sign on the line. I am personally a share holder in several banks through my mutual funds so I love it that people several million people can’t control themselves almost to the point of bankruptcy then manage to fight their way back through 30% interest rates and late fees then immediately jump back on board for another trip. To that I say….YEEHAW boys! Let’s ride these hogs all the way to retirement on the backs of out of control consumers trying like hell to save the embarrassment of a low credit score! Keep it up suckers, daddy needs a new Maserati!   

So if you have 40-ish minutes of your life you won’t regret spending on the couch and you have an odd fascination with money, business & credit click here: FRONTLINE: Secret History of the Credit Card or even better read my Credit Card Debate page to learn how you don’t have to ever deal with them if you don’t want to.

 Since my wife and I are trying to reach some specific financial goals we are kind of strict about any money that we blow. The dollar amount that would trigger my wives fury while we were trying to eliminate our personal debts (I know this may sound insanely low to many of you) was around $25. Do remember though that my wife is a saver by nature and I’m the one that liked to spend. Also remember that I’m talking about spending money that wasn’t in our spending plan – I’m not talking about things like food, gas, needed things around the house, car maintenance etc. – I’m talking about things we hadn’t planned for like a cool $52 sweatshirt, or a $175 replacement for the broken cell phone – you know that sort of stuff.

Now that our debts have been cleared (with help from some learned behaviors like this one) our spending threshold has now been adjusted accordingly. We’re now closer to the $80-$100 range for “free” spending. Now that we’ve worked so hard to always discuss and share our finances we usually talk about most things over $50 anyway (note that we talk about it…not fight about it). Hopefully one day with enough hard work and discipline when I surprise my wife with the new Cadillac she wants and the only discussion we’ll have will be where we’re taking it for dinner that night and who gets to drive – now there’s the spending threshold I’m shooting for!

Agreed upon spending limits is where a couple’s shared finances can really help a couple succeed over the long term due to the unavoidable accountability. How’s the saying go? “At some point he’ll have to come home!”

What dollar amount do you feel you should have agreement with your spouse before buying something as to avoid your home turning into a bad Jerry Springer episode?  If you’re single at what dollar amount do you feel you’ve let yourself down buy spending too much?

I think for many reasons debt can often do more harm than good, especially over the long term. Not just financial damage but emotional, relational, and sometime physical damage. Debt is not always a bad thing to have and in some cases it can work out. Though in my opinion for a lot of people and a lot of  situations it’s very often either dumb or unnecessary. In Ron Blue’s book The Debt Squeeze he addresses when he feels it is okay to borrow money and carry the debt. He lays this out in four simple rules that I’ll summarize for you:

Rule 1: Common Sense; this rule is pretty straight forward. You need to seriously consider what this debt will do to/for your life. Will the payments stress you family, your business, yourself? Are you making a mistake at some level by bringing this into your life? Will this be a blessing now and in the future of are you signing up for another future financial disaster and just justifying it somehow? Does this purchase fit well into your financial plan and future goals?

Rule 2: A Guaranteed way to repay; this is the rule that caught my attention (it’s a good one so stay with me!)  Can you guarantee repayment for this debt? I’m not talking about promising all of next year’s paychecks, I’m talking about a guaranteed way to repay. What this means to me is not borrowing money towards things that cannot stand good for themselves. Real estate is a great example. A mortgage is secured against the value of the property itself – assuming you had a proper down payment or solid equity when purchased. If you can’t make the payments in theory the value of the asset would stand good for the debt liability. Purchasing a business may also fall into this category assuming you are buying true assets and not just a process or name.  

A car (especially new) almost never falls into the guaranteed repayment category. This is due to the value of vehicles dropping too fast. Cars almost never increase in value (well not the kind you drive anyway). So unless you are borrowing $1,000 on a $12,000 car I doubt a financed vehicle can truly stand good for the purchase on its own. I know this sucks but how many people do you know with a financed car can sell the vehicle and clear the debt with the proceeds from the day they drive it home and through the life of the loan? That’s not a guaranteed way to repay.

Sometimes you can pledge the value of one asset as collateral for another financed asset. If you have the ability to take that route then you may have fulfilled Rule #2 and if you’re okay with that then I’m okay with that!

Obviously there are many variables to consider for Rule #2 but this part of the debt decision deserves some serious consideration and some honest answers to some tricky “what if” questions. Can you remove this debt burden from your life if necessary without being kicked in your financial groin? If you can’t answer yes to that question stop right here and reconsider.

Rule 3: Peace of heart and mind; Rule 3 is a bit more spiritual than the others in my opinion. How is this debt going to make you feel? Are you going to beat yourself up over the next five years for making a quick decision? Are you going to unintentionally going to forgo some big goal in the future for a pick-me-up right now? Will you lock yourself in to a job you don’t really want because you strapped yourself with a house payment you can barely cover? Will you put off your saving for the kiddo’s college to drive a new truck? Will you be able to sleep at night after you sign on the line?

Rule 4: Unity; This rule is easy to explain. This rule relates to married folks or people partnering with someone else in one way or another. Basically what is being said here is if you’re going to be in debt you need to be on the same page with your spouse or partners on what is happening and what is going to happen in the future. That’s really it. The two of you need to have a solid agreement and commitment to carry the burden together as one.

So assuming you can come to terms on all of these four rules a particular debt may not be such a bad thing in your life. That said, if for any reason you question don’t have a solid honest answer for any of these rules you may be buying a ticket for a ride you didn’t really plan on taking. Financial decisions should be very deliberate and well thought out no matter what dollar amount is involved. Slow down, take a little time and consider all your options then move forward deliberately and cautiously – every time

How long could you cover your household living expenses with your current liquid savings? This survey of 2,318 adults 18 & older asked how long people could survive on the liquid money they had available. It proves how unprepared many Americans are with less emergency money available than the professional financial nerds out there recommend.

• Less than one week 17%
• One week - one month 14%
• One month - 90 days 24%
• Three - six months 10%
• Six months or more 19%
• Declined to answer 17%

The scary numbers are the first two. 31% don’t think they could make it a month. That’s a scary state of affairs for a lot of people out there. Most advisers recommend 3-6 months in liquid money. According to this survey only a third of Americans measure up to those recommendations though it sounds like from recent reports the current economy may have scared some more money into savings accounts over the last year or so. From my experience lately though people have been spending more time whining about being broke than actually doing something about it…I guess we’ll see the next time “it rains!”

So how does  your family measure up? Post a comment and lets us know (don’t worry you can even use a fakie name if that makes you feel better about yourself)

*Survey source: LexisNexis Martindale-Hubbell’s Lawyers.com survey of 2,318 adults 18 and older.

When the blind lead the blind…get the hell out of the way!

Have you ever heard that saying? Well as stupid as the saying is it actually has some solid logic to behind it. When I was first working to take out my debts I got some great advice from someone that makes quite a heck of a lot more money than I do (I know that’s hard to believe). Anyway…he told me “never hire an accountant whose client list includes people that make less money than you do.” In other words always look for people that can help you grow into more than you are now instead of the opposite.  

This advice stands true with most of the advice we receive around money (and most anything else for that matter).  If somebody isn’t successful with the particular advice they’re giving why should you not be a bit skeptical?  This is exactly what many do with our money decision each day. Often we take counsel from people who make poor money decisions. Sometime it’s formal counsel like an advisor and sometimes it’s just a couple guys hanging out having a beer bs’n about a new ski boat. In either case always step back for a second and ask “where’s this information really coming from? 

In a business sales seminar I was once taught to “mentally step back” from a negotiation and pretend you are looking in on the conversation like an outsider. The idea being as an observer of both parties you get a better idea of where each party is coming from and where they’re trying to go. Whenever I receive money advice I do this as well, not in lame close my eyes and go to my “happy place” kind of way, but I try to step back and take an intentionally subjective look at what’s being said. Who’s saying it, What they’re saying, Where has their experience and/or expertise come from, Why are they really telling this to me, etc. Also you must always understand that some things rub off on us with or without an actual conversation, especially from friends and family. Always be alert to what people around you are saying and doing. If everybody around you is driving around in financed cars or living in homes with absurd mortgages you may find yourself taking their cues.  

With your money you need to be cautious of where you get your guidance. You must always be objective with new information. You must always consider who it’s coming from, where they are coming from, why they are passing these nuggets on to you, and what it has to do with you. Why would you allow people who continually make poor money decisions to advise you on your finances? Sad thing is we all do this stupid move everyday and often don’t even realize its happening.

So what steps can you take to avoid unintentionally honoring advice from broke people?

• Have a solid financial plan – you don’t have to be rich or have your plan completed but clearly knowing where you are going and how you intend to get there will help you do what you feel is correct not what others tell you is correct.
• Continue learning – the more you know the better information you will have to make more sound decisions. You don’t have to be a genius with your money but if you know more you will have more option available to you
• This is a big one….Don’t hang around with broke people! Okay, that’s a bit harsh but seriously if the people around you are not helping you reach your goals maybe you should consider how you interact with them. I’m not saying stop talking to your broke family, coworkers or friends (unless you want to, you can blame it on me I don’t mind) but if they’re dragging you out to dinner or continually convince you to do things that you really can’t afford this might be a good time to reevaluate when & where & how you spend time with certain people. They may unintentionally be creating obstacles to you reaching your goals.     

Step back and look at the advice, influence, or sales pressure and only then can you make a clear decision on your next move. Figure out what works best for you to keep yourself on track and always remember who you’re listening to because sometimes you don’t even realize you’re listening to them (and there’s a fairly reasonable chance they’re an idiot)

the %!<&\# at Citi just jacked my interest rate right after I made the stupid payment

Her call sent Vinny Financio into action and prompted me to snoop around the inter-web a bit. Little did I know I would find out that Citigroup has also started charging annual fees to card holders who don’t put more than a specific amount on their cards, typically $2,400 per year. So let me get this straight…If I use a card you charge me, (I get that) If I don’t use my card you charge me (thats the part I don’t get!).

Okay that’s not really true, I do get it they are charging customers more fees. That’s what they do, that’s what their consumer business model is based on. The part I don’t get is why do they still have customers? You know the saying though…

you can lead an idiot to water but you can’t make him drown himself

It amazes me what people are willing to put up with. Luckily though Military Wife, due to her recent financial progress, was able to close the account and I doubt she was able to contain her ex-Marine Corp potty mouth when she told them what she thought about their new programs. I guess at this point for those that are willing to accept this treatment more power to them. Somebody has to get bent over the bar to keep those bank stocks in my mutual funds afloat for another 30 years. Personally I’ll take my own road on this one.

So the good news is they did have a reasonable amount of coverage in place and they were getting a heck of deal on it since the company covered most of the premiums. The bad news is they have no insurance in place if outside of the company. The main problem I see with this situation is that if they leave the company they’ll lose the coverage. True, as long as they remain healthy they could likely replace the coverage with a new term policy at that time but they also run the risk of not being able to get coverage at that time too (due to medical issues or the cost of a new unsubsidized policy.) I think having life insurance other than your employer’s plan is vital especially with two little ones at home. How many people nowadays are going to be at the same job 30 years from now…put a bullet in my head now please! It may be a good idea to look outside of your employer’s policies and see what all your options are.

So we decided they would look into getting a couple new 30 year term policies that they can carry with them no matter what happens to their work situation or their health. They’re also going to keep the current employer policies in place as  since it’s costing them less than $4 per month each for $350,000 in coverage (told you they had a hell of a deal!). Like I said, work insurance can often be a pretty sweet deal, just make sure it’ll meet your needs if you get canned or decide it’s finally time to tell your boss what you really think of him!  

Do you carry life insurance through your employer? Do you have outside insurance? Do you even have life insurance at all?

The first reason is because this simplifies my life greatly in several ways. One I don’t have the stress of debt hanging over me every minute of every day. Second I don’t have many bills to keep track of and pay every month (I currently pay 8 bills each month and half of those are deducted automatically).

The second reason is the big one for me. Taking debts out of the equation means my income is no longer being used to support those debts. Not paying these payments means my income is now free to invest, spend & save. When debt is sucking your income out of your hands as fast (or faster) than you earn it you cripple yourself. You spend your energy and, more importantly, your time trying to climb a mountain you have the weight of payment books trying to drag you back down. You spend your days trying to make money for someone else – I don’t like that feeling.

So by eliminating debt payments you simplify your life and free up energy and cash that can be used towards more productive goals like retirement planning and building wealth. How hard would it be to stash away 15% of your income towards retirement if you had no car payments, credit card payments, or student loan payments? If you don’t believe me calculate your debt to income ratio then swing by the local old people farm and ask them what they would do differently if they had the chance. I’m sure they’ll be more than happy to give you their take on credit cards and car payments.

According to my calculations if I would have stuck to the $5 a day plan every stinking day I would be completely debt free in approximately 21,400 days. Not a bad deal…if I wanted to be debt free around my 90th birthday! Actually it’s more likely I’d be debt free well before that because at some point I’d have to kill myself over it. Of course then my wife could bank the insurance $money$. Anyway, where was I? So at the time the thought of removing all my debt at the rate of $150 a month seemed laughable, but the idea behind the book made perfect sense. The idea was to get in the habit of paying your debts before you had the opportunity to spend your money on something else. At the time I took the book at face value I think because I was desperate for a solution. Now that I look back at it the book makes perfect sense even though the numbers don’t jive. In may posts Micro Paymentality & Sick Day Bonus Pay I talk about how this exact idea can work only on a larger scale. The idea is to fight like hell to find extra money each month then apply it to your bills.

If you manage to get a grasp on your finances and put a couple of the basics into place like a household budget and an emergency fund to prevent you from needing more credit to get by, the $5 a day idea could actually work. No matter how much you can manage to eek out of your budget, as long as you can eek out something, if you put it towards your debts before you allow it to wander out of your life, and assuming you don’t rack up any new debt, you’ll eventually become debt free. Though in my case I busted it and used what I affectionately call the Vinny Financio’s Debt Free on $60 a Day Plan and it worked. I guess I was just a little too impatient to wait until I was 90 or dead to live like this.

I will say this, I am proud of her for making some more “grown up” decisions regarding her finances but I honestly think this is a waste of her time…and I let her know that (I know I seriously need a better opinion filter, but whatever). I told her that I doubt a $15 CD is really hurting her finances at all. I then told her that her newer car, her new couch and her new $2600 bull dog she bought with a cash advance with her credit card were her problem. Cutting CD’s out of the budget is cute but you’d have better luck trying to pick up a turd from the clean end! Seriously though if you think squeezing $50 a month out of your budget you haven’t address the actual problem…..YOU! 

The CD’s aren’t your problem girl. Your lack of planning & your lack of discipline are your problem. If you actually want to change the way you spend money then change the way you spend your money…ALL OF IT. Don’t just change the parts that are easy. Change all the parts that are broken, change the parts that hurt, change the parts that are will truly make a difference. Don’t try to nickel and dime your way out of 20k, 50k, 100k in debt cause we all know you sure as hell didn’t get in 20k, 50k or 100 worth of debt buying CD’s so why do you think this will ever get you out (if you did get in debt buying CD’s get your butt on Craigslist tonight and start selling!) Get out there and get mad, break something…break the habits that got you to this place. If you don’t at least try you will have no one to blame but yourself. True, it may not be only your fault you ended up here but will be your fault if you stay here (especially if you don’t want to be here).

So take a lesson from my friend and stop buying those CD’s if that’s what you need to do. Then take a lesson from Vinny Financio’s real financial world and cut deep into your lifestyle to the point it hurts, stop buying all the other garbage too until you have your stupid messes cleaned up. And then we’ll go drop some cash baby!

They would be allowed to borrow up to 50% of the vested balance with a maximum of $50,000. That should be okay in their case because they have a balance of near $65,000 and are looking to pull about $28k.

The money in their case would be available at a 6% interest rate. The interest does go back to your account but depending on the market performance this could be a losing deal as far as growth.

The loan sort of turn offs your 401k for a period of time while you work to pay back the balance. Well you don’t turn off the entire 401k but the portion you borrowed is no longer considered part of the balance so no growth will happen to the portion you have taken out of the account.

Here’s the big reason I think 401k loans should be used only as a last resort:

If you leave your company most plans require that the balance be paid back into the account within 60 days. This comes due no matter the circumstances of your departure, if you go “Jerry Maguire” on them and walk out the door with the hot receptionist you’ve got 60 days. If you decide to leave because things get a bit uncomfortable around the office after you’ve been fired, you have 60 days. If you’re unfortunate enough to die, 60 days. If the loan is not repaid within 60 days the remaining balance is considered an early withdrawal and you will have the pleasure of paying income taxes plus a 10% early withdrawal penalty (if you’re under 59-1/2). So for many families you’re looking at a full 30%-40% tax bill due on that money. So if my friends borrow the $28,000 they needed and it blows up in their face they are looking at writing a check for $8,400 to $11,000 conveniently right around the time they lose a job. Talk about crappy timing…oh, and add that to the fact that they had to borrow money so they obviously we’re already in a less than desirable situation before they lost the job! And remeber the IRS doesn’t like to wait around for their money.

So I’m not saying a 401k loan is not an option, in some cases it may be the only option someone has to save a house or avoid a bankruptcy. I just want to throw this out there so everybody knows what road they are heading down before they board the special bus.

What’s your experience with 401k loans? Please share.

Rule 1: Common Sense; this rule is pretty straight forward. You need to seriously consider what this debt will do to/for your life. Will the payments stress you family, your business, yourself? Are you making a mistake at some level by bringing this into your life? Will this be a blessing now and in the future of are you signing up for another future financial disaster and just justifying it somehow? Does this purchase fit well into your financial plan and future goals?

Rule 2: A Guaranteed way to repay; this is the rule that caught my attention (it’s a good one so stay with me!)  Can you guarantee repayment for this debt? I’m not talking about promising all of next year’s paychecks, I’m talking about a guaranteed way to repay. What this means to me is not borrowing money towards things that cannot stand good for themselves. Real estate is a great example. A mortgage is secured against the value of the property itself – assuming you had a proper down payment or solid equity when purchased. If you can’t make the payments in theory the value of the asset would stand good for the debt liability. Purchasing a business may also fall into this category assuming you are buying true assets and not just a process or name.  

A car (especially new) almost never falls into the guaranteed repayment category. This is due to the value of vehicles dropping too fast. Cars almost never increase in value (well not the kind you drive anyway). So unless you are borrowing $1,000 on a $12,000 car I doubt a financed vehicle can truly stand good for the purchase on its own. I know this sucks but how many people do you know with a financed car can sell the vehicle and clear the debt with the proceeds from the day they drive it home and through the life of the loan? That’s not a guaranteed way to repay.

Sometimes you can pledge the value of one asset as collateral for another financed asset. If you have the ability to take that route then you may have fulfilled Rule #2 and if you’re okay with that then I’m okay with that!

Obviously there are many variables to consider for Rule #2 but this part of the debt decision deserves some serious consideration and some honest answers to some tricky “what if” questions. Can you remove this debt burden from your life if necessary without being kicked in your financial groin? If you can’t answer yes to that question stop right here and reconsider.

Rule 3: Peace of heart and mind; Rule 3 is a bit more spiritual than the others in my opinion. How is this debt going to make you feel? Are you going to beat yourself up over the next five years for making a quick decision? Are you going to unintentionally going to forgo some big goal in the future for a pick-me-up right now? Will you lock yourself in to a job you don’t really want because you strapped yourself with a house payment you can barely cover? Will you put off your saving for the kiddo’s college to drive a new truck? Will you be able to sleep at night after you sign on the line?

Rule 4: Unity; This rule is easy to explain. This rule relates to married folks or people partnering with someone else in one way or another. Basically what is being said here is if you’re going to be in debt you need to be on the same page with your spouse or partners on what is happening and what is going to happen in the future. That’s really it. The two of you need to have a solid agreement and commitment to carry the burden together as one.

So assuming you can come to terms on these four rules this debt may not be such a bad thing in your life. That said, if for any reason you question don’t have a solid honest answer for any of these rules you may be buying a ticket for a ride you didn’t really plan on taking. Financial decisions should be very deliberate and well thought out no matter what dollar amount is involved. Slow down, take a little time and consider all your options then move forward deliberately and cautiously – every time   

Do you agree with these 4 rules? Have you taken on debt without considering one of these principles? How’d that work out for you? Please share.