Financial Freak Show

As a follow up to my post I Call a Do-over I wanted to discuss how my goal of a Zero Credit Score and my actions of living with no consumer debts will affect my life in the future. There are two reasons I decided to eliminate my debts and work to live on less than I make.

The first reason is because this simplifies my life greatly in several ways. One I don’t have the stress of debt hanging over me every minute of every day. Second I don’t have many bills to keep track of and pay every month (I currently pay 8 bills each month and half of those are deducted automatically).

The second reason is the big one for me. Taking debts out of the equation means my income is no longer being used to support those debts. Not paying these payments means my income is now free to invest, spend & save. When debt is sucking your income out of your hands as fast (or faster) than you earn it you cripple yourself. You spend your energy and, more importantly, your time trying to climb a mountain you have the weight of payment books trying to drag you back down. You spend your days trying to make money for someone else – I don’t like that feeling.

So by eliminating debt payments you simplify your life and free up energy and cash that can be used towards more productive goals like retirement planning and building wealth. How hard would it be to stash away 15% of your income towards retirement if you had no car payments, credit card payments, or student loan payments? If you don’t believe me calculate your debt to income ratio then swing by the local old people farm and ask them what they would do differently if they had the chance. I’m sure they’ll be more than happy to give you their take on credit cards and car payments.

A couple years ago at the very beginning of my quest to become debt free I read a small little book called Debt Free on $5 a Day (at least I think that’s what it was called, I don’t really remember it was a couple years ago). The idea behind the book was that if you set aside $5 a day, every day before anything else and applied that to your debts you would work yourself out of your money problems. At the time I thought the idea was…well how do I say this best, ”retarded?”

According to my calculations if I would have stuck to the $5 a day plan every stinking day I would be completely debt free in approximately 21,400 days. Not a bad deal…if I wanted to be debt free around my 90th birthday! Actually it’s more likely I’d be debt free well before that because at some point I’d have to kill myself over it. Of course then my wife could bank the insurance $money$. Anyway, where was I? So at the time the thought of removing all my debt at the rate of $150 a month seemed laughable, but the idea behind the book made perfect sense. The idea was to get in the habit of paying your debts before you had the opportunity to spend your money on something else. At the time I took the book at face value I think because I was desperate for a solution. Now that I look back at it the book makes perfect sense even though the numbers don’t jive. In may posts Micro Paymentality & Sick Day Bonus Pay I talk about how this exact idea can work only on a larger scale. The idea is to fight like hell to find extra money each month then apply it to your bills.

If you manage to get a grasp on your finances and put a couple of the basics into place like a household budget and an emergency fund to prevent you from needing more credit to get by, the $5 a day idea could actually work. No matter how much you can manage to eek out of your budget, as long as you can eek out something, if you put it towards your debts before you allow it to wander out of your life, and assuming you don’t rack up any new debt, you’ll eventually become debt free. Though in my case I busted it and used what I affectionately call the Vinny Financio’s Debt Free on $60 a Day Plan and it worked. I guess I was just a little too impatient to wait until I was 90 or dead to live like this.

This post was inspired by a chat about a friend mentioning cutting out the purchase of a (get this) a CD per month to help ease their financial burden. When I say “CD” I mean the music type not the investment vehicle. Apparently she has a habit of purchasing 1 new CD each month with her first paycheck she receives each month. Her thought was that with this sacrifice and her other sacrifice of cutting morning espressos to a couple times a week will lead to the financial freedom her family is seeking.

I will say this, I am proud of her for making some more “grown up” decisions regarding her finances but I honestly think this is a waste of her time…and I let her know that (I know I seriously need a better opinion filter, but whatever). I told her that I doubt a $15 CD is really hurting her finances at all. I then told her that her newer car, her new couch and her new $2600 bull dog she bought with a cash advance with her credit card were her problem. Cutting CD’s out of the budget is cute but you’d have better luck trying to pick up a turd from the clean end! Seriously though if you think squeezing $50 a month out of your budget you haven’t address the actual problem…..YOU! 

The CD’s aren’t your problem girl. Your lack of planning & your lack of discipline are your problem. If you actually want to change the way you spend money then change the way you spend your money…ALL OF IT. Don’t just change the parts that are easy. Change all the parts that are broken, change the parts that hurt, change the parts that are will truly make a difference. Don’t try to nickel and dime your way out of 20k, 50k, 100k in debt cause we all know you sure as hell didn’t get in 20k, 50k or 100 worth of debt buying CD’s so why do you think this will ever get you out (if you did get in debt buying CD’s get your butt on Craigslist tonight and start selling!) Get out there and get mad, break something…break the habits that got you to this place. If you don’t at least try you will have no one to blame but yourself. True, it may not be only your fault you ended up here but will be your fault if you stay here (especially if you don’t want to be here).

So take a lesson from my friend and stop buying those CD’s if that’s what you need to do. Then take a lesson from Vinny Financio’s real financial world and cut deep into your lifestyle to the point it hurts, stop buying all the other garbage too until you have your stupid messes cleaned up. And then we’ll go drop some cash baby!

I was posed a question about using a 401k loan to clean up someone’s financial train wreck. The mess in particular was created by buying a bunch of junk that these people didn’t really have to ability to afford at the time but did have the ability to borrow. Now they’re trying to refinance their home to lower their monthly payments to get a little breathing room. The problem is they’re now a little upside down on the home and the bank wants them to bring some cash to the table before they will allow them to re-fi the house. So they’re considering a 401k loan to make this happen. That is until I laid out to them a little more insight into how these loans work.   

They would be allowed to borrow up to 50% of the vested balance with a maximum of $50,000. That should be okay in their case because they have a balance of near $65,000 and are looking to pull about $28k.

The money in their case would be available at a 6% interest rate. The interest does go back to your account but depending on the market performance this could be a losing deal as far as growth.

The loan sort of turn offs your 401k for a period of time while you work to pay back the balance. Well you don’t turn off the entire 401k but the portion you borrowed is no longer considered part of the balance so no growth will happen to the portion you have taken out of the account.

Here’s the big reason I think 401k loans should be used only as a last resort:

If you leave your company most plans require that the balance be paid back into the account within 60 days. This comes due no matter the circumstances of your departure, if you go “Jerry Maguire” on them and walk out the door with the hot receptionist you’ve got 60 days. If you decide to leave because things get a bit uncomfortable around the office after you’ve been fired, you have 60 days. If you’re unfortunate enough to die, 60 days. If the loan is not repaid within 60 days the remaining balance is considered an early withdrawal and you will have the pleasure of paying income taxes plus a 10% early withdrawal penalty (if you’re under 59-1/2). So for many families you’re looking at a full 30%-40% tax bill due on that money. So if my friends borrow the $28,000 they needed and it blows up in their face they are looking at writing a check for $8,400 to $11,000 conveniently right around the time they lose a job. Talk about crappy timing…oh, and add that to the fact that they had to borrow money so they obviously we’re already in a less than desirable situation before they lost the job! And remeber the IRS doesn’t like to wait around for their money.

So I’m not saying a 401k loan is not an option, in some cases it may be the only option someone has to save a house or avoid a bankruptcy. I just want to throw this out there so everybody knows what road they are heading down before they board the special bus.

What’s your experience with 401k loans? Please share.

Debt is not always a bad thing to have. Though for most people and most situations it is either dumb or unnecessary. In Ron Blue’s book The Debt Squeeze he addresses when he feels it is okay to borrow money and carry the debt. He lays this out in four simple rules that I’ll summarize for you:

Rule 1: Common Sense; this rule is pretty straight forward. You need to seriously consider what this debt will do to/for your life. Will the payments stress you family, your business, yourself? Are you making a mistake at some level by bringing this into your life? Will this be a blessing now and in the future of are you signing up for another future financial disaster and just justifying it somehow? Does this purchase fit well into your financial plan and future goals?

Rule 2: A Guaranteed way to repay; this is the rule that caught my attention (it’s a good one so stay with me!)  Can you guarantee repayment for this debt? I’m not talking about promising all of next year’s paychecks, I’m talking about a guaranteed way to repay. What this means to me is not borrowing money towards things that cannot stand good for themselves. Real estate is a great example. A mortgage is secured against the value of the property itself – assuming you had a proper down payment or solid equity when purchased. If you can’t make the payments in theory the value of the asset would stand good for the debt liability. Purchasing a business may also fall into this category assuming you are buying true assets and not just a process or name.  

A car (especially new) almost never falls into the guaranteed repayment category. This is due to the value of vehicles dropping too fast. Cars almost never increase in value (well not the kind you drive anyway). So unless you are borrowing $1,000 on a $12,000 car I doubt a financed vehicle can truly stand good for the purchase on its own. I know this sucks but how many people do you know with a financed car can sell the vehicle and clear the debt with the proceeds from the day they drive it home and through the life of the loan? That’s not a guaranteed way to repay.

Sometimes you can pledge the value of one asset as collateral for another financed asset. If you have the ability to take that route then you may have fulfilled Rule #2 and if you’re okay with that then I’m okay with that!

Obviously there are many variables to consider for Rule #2 but this part of the debt decision deserves some serious consideration and some honest answers to some tricky “what if” questions. Can you remove this debt burden from your life if necessary without being kicked in your financial groin? If you can’t answer yes to that question stop right here and reconsider.

Rule 3: Peace of heart and mind; Rule 3 is a bit more spiritual than the others in my opinion. How is this debt going to make you feel? Are you going to beat yourself up over the next five years for making a quick decision? Are you going to unintentionally going to forgo some big goal in the future for a pick-me-up right now? Will you lock yourself in to a job you don’t really want because you strapped yourself with a house payment you can barely cover? Will you put off your saving for the kiddo’s college to drive a new truck? Will you be able to sleep at night after you sign on the line?

Rule 4: Unity; This rule is easy to explain. This rule relates to married folks or people partnering with someone else in one way or another. Basically what is being said here is if you’re going to be in debt you need to be on the same page with your spouse or partners on what is happening and what is going to happen in the future. That’s really it. The two of you need to have a solid agreement and commitment to carry the burden together as one.

So assuming you can come to terms on these four rules this debt may not be such a bad thing in your life. That said, if for any reason you question don’t have a solid honest answer for any of these rules you may be buying a ticket for a ride you didn’t really plan on taking. Financial decisions should be very deliberate and well thought out no matter what dollar amount is involved. Slow down, take a little time and consider all your options then move forward deliberately and cautiously – every time   

Do you agree with these 4 rules? Have you taken on debt without considering one of these principles? How’d that work out for you? Please share.

Here’s a guest post from my favorite military wife / mom. In this post she talks about her change in mindset around the extra deployment money that’ll be coming in soon from her husband heading off to do what needs to be done for those that can’t do it for themselves. For those of you not familiar with the military pay; “deployment money” is the extra pay they receive when they’re deployed…hence the name “deployment money” and to sweeten the deal many times this money comes to them tax free. Apparently they can earn a noticeable pay increase during the time they are taking on the bad guys – and in my opinion they deserve every damn penny they get!

Enjoy the following guest post – and when you get to the part about “a very wise man” and “single-handedly did something Superman and an army of super heroes couldn’t have done” remember that me she’s talking about- oh yeah!

‘Deployment money” a military wife’s favorite words. Visions of Coach Bags and spa trips dance through her head while trying to fight back the tears as her husband boards the plane. We all do it, yet most of us won’t admit it. This time though I’m taking this deployment to a whole new level. I’m on a mission to go down in the military spouse hall of fame as the one who passed the Coach bags in the Exchange and with a disdainful smirk I head to the children’s section for the half priced shoes. Ever notice they put those gorgeous bags right in the front walkway of the store? I am on the road to paying off all of our debt. All of it, all $125,000 in credit cards, car loans, and the boat. Our awesome boat – yup, the one we can’t afford to put gas in.

Thank you to a very wise man who, in a 20 minute conversation, single-handedly did something Superman and an army of super heroes couldn’t have done. Got me (of my own free will no less) to pull every credit card out of my wallet, wrap them pretty in a rubber band and throw them in a drawer I affectionately call the “junk drawer.” Fitting name huh? I then proceeded to break the news to my husband. We sat down and had what was probably the most open and honest discussion about our finances in almost nine years of marriage. We mapped out a plan TOGETHER, figured out where we could cut back, then celebrated… by eating our first dinner at home in a long time! (a personal apology to all Olive Garden shareholders).

Using my husband’s first “deployment money” that came in from a recent short trip, I paid off the lowest balance debt. Seeing that first zero was almost as exciting as a new pair of shoes. The second zero balance I have achieved almost made me… well you get it.

It’s a game now. I created a sweet little excel spreadsheet staying true to my “excel goddess” nickname that auto-calculates our totals, gives me the percentage paid down on each debt and the total percentage of debt paid off to date. Are you ready for this? 10.24% in 2 weeks. TWO WEEKS!! That’s about $12,000 of worry, stress and interest we’ll never have to pay on again!! He leaves again in a few weeks for 6 months this time. And I will sit in my office every day and secretly curse all of the women telling stories of the money they spent the past weekends on shoes, clothes and manicures, and I think of all the things our family can do with our money when he comes home. Things like a family vacation paid for with actual money. All out of our bank account instead of on credit cards. Amazing.

I have a feeling the next 6 months is going to change the rest of their lives. So do you think she can pull it off? Do you think somebody’s going to get hurt if they stand in her way?

Please take a second and add an encouraging comment.

I’m often asked how does someone function in our current world without the use of a stack of credit cards. Hopefully this page will help clarify why I feel the way I do and how it is possible to function in our society without using or relying on credit cards.

PART 1.

My lack of credit cards (the why)

Living without a credit card is actually not very complicated. In my opinion it’s actually more simple than living with one. I have now been without a credit card for over two years and have not had to change my lifestyle because of it – well atleast not in a negative way.

First I want to discuss the reasons why I don’t use credit cards. For many people who have “credit card problems” the reason is usually self control or a lack of financial knowledge. Credit cards are often used as a financial crutch to help people limp along when they don’t actually have the money to cover a purchase they can’t resist or truly need in the case of an emergency. Many people can manage credit cards without getting into any major trouble. This was the case for me personally, my credit cards and balances they carried were far from the point of blowing up our finances and we had no trouble handling the payments each month. I was even able to enjoy some of the “rewards” these cards offered to me.

So why did I decide to remove the cards from my wallet if they weren’t causing any problems and was reaping some rewards?  Well folks there were a few reasons…

I didn’t like the feeling of paying for last month’s expenses this month. I hated sending off  money I just received to pay for things I didn’t posses any longer. Even though I may have been able to pay the balances down to zero each month I still felt like my finances were a month behind. The weight of any debt no matter how small has a way wearing on me. The truth is carrying debt takes energy from your life even if it’s only the energy needed to check the statement and send the payment.

Overspending; a Dunn and Bradstreet study is often quoted in blogs, and the major media. The study reports on average you’ll spend 12-18% more when making a purchase with a credit card as opposed to cash. And to prove their point they noted the average McDonald’s transaction increased from $4.50 with cash to $7.00 when credit was used. When they looked at vending machines, the average transaction size nearly doubled. Now for me I don’t doubt that I unintentionally spent more using plastic at times (I’ve been guilty of supersizing my life a time or two!) I know for a fact I’ve done this with the thought that I’d be getting more perks by adding to what I charge. So even though this was not the key factor for dumping my cards it was defiantly a consideration.    

Paying interest; this is an easy one in my opinion. Why would you save money at low checking or saving account interest rates while carrying a high interest balance on unsecured debt? It just doesn’t make sense to me – why pay interest when with a bit of planning you could be receiving interest? I never quite understood why people will say “don’t pay off you mortgage because you can make more in the stock market” and then use credit cards with 10%-30% interest rates. But it works for you have at it

I also saw no benefit to using a credit card. I know they offered me points, and insurance, and extended warranties and cash back, but to me I realized I was putting up with the issues above and found myself never getting any real benefit from all the extras they were offering me in exchange for dealing with the negatives. And as far as the convenience factor, well to be honest my credit cards weren’t anymore convenient than my debit card.  This was the big reason I now have no credit cards in my wallet…they do nothing for me, I didn’t see the so called “benefits”

This was my biggest reason….Why spend your time trying to outsmart the credit card companies? This is what they do for a living and they are better at it than I will ever be. True some people can beat them at their own game, charge up the month on credit, pay it off on the 30^th, never pay fees, never pay interest, and collect the rewards points at the end of the month.  If that’s how you roll and how you want to spend your time and energy. I’d much rather spend my time chillaxin and not worrying about trying to outsmart them while they’re trying to outsmart me. I’m not saying you can’t outsmart these folks but I am saying it’s a lot of damn work! 

This was the big reason…. So to briefly summarize why I don’t use credit cards…I don’t like to pay interest, I don’t like to being tempted to over spend, I don’t like the hassle of making the payments on time, and finally I never really received any benefit from the incentives they offered. So basically it came down to multiple negatives and no real positives.

Let’s put it this way….Let’s say you were dating a credit card. She charged high fees when you used her and possibly charged you when you didn’t use her, then tempted you to do things that weren’t in your best interest like overspending, then she drove you crazy by making you pay her a 25 days after the fun was over or risk having to pay her even more, then she offered you restricted “benefits” and “rewards” that you didn’t really care to use and if at any point you fail to keep your promises in the relationship she will call incessantly, threaten you then ultimately drag you into court and win. Then after you and her work out all your monetary issues you realized she never really cared about you in the first place and was only after your money – I don’t think that’s a very healthy relationship. Sorry, no matter how good that hot little number looked being flaunted around town with me I’d have to break it off!

To reinforce my thoughts around credit cards but with a little less Vinny Financio I want to refer back to my post So When is Debt Okay?  In this post I lay out four things to consider when determining if a debt is okay. Rule 1: Common Sense Rule 2: A Guaranteed way to repay Rule 3: Peace of heart and mind Rule 4: Unity;

In my opinion credit cards do not satisfy the four rules outlining when it is okay to borrow. Well it could fit into rules #1, #3 & #4 Common Sense, Peace of Mind & Unity. Though this all depends on your household situation but in my household we came to “Unity” on the fact that we didn’t see the “Common Sense” in borrowing money day to day and coming to that agreement gave us “Peace of Mind” knowing we were always living on what we had. As for Rule #2 Guaranteed Way to Repay; most credit cards I know of don’t have this guarantee built into them. They are only guaranteed by your future income but your future income is only guaranteed to the point that you have sufficient income. Lose your income and you have no guarantee there for it’s not a “Guaranteed Way to Repay.” Credit Cards are not secured by any real property which is why credit cards are referred to as unsecured debt.

I only have one more point to make regarding using any form of debt in your day-to-day life. This one though is intangible and hard to quantify with numbers. The feelings & emotions people feel around having debt in general. In several of my posts I’ve shared the experience others have had with their own personal battles with debt. Here are a few of those quotes:

Being away from my family at night is one of most difficult things I’ve had to do.  When I look into my kids eyes though, I know it will be worth it.  - Jeff, Deliver Away Debt

and I think of all our family can do with our money when he comes home. Things like a family vacation paid for with actual money. Out of our checking account and not on credit cards. Amazing.  - Military Mom, Deployment Money

he called me the day after our discussion and let me know he cleaned out his wallet to make room for some cash instead. 8 days later he’s still on the wagon as he puts it. I told him he sounds like a recovering crack head, he said that’s about how he feels.  - Mark, 8-days Clean

Now that I’ve laid all this out there for you I want to finish with the thought that you’re all big boys and you can make your own big boy decisions about your finances but that’s my $.02

Part 2.

Living without credit cards (the how)

Once I decided I was no longer going to depend on credit cards as a way of making purchases I needed to come up with another option that would allow me to make all the purchases I needed to without cramping my style too much.

There were a couple issues I took consideration before I got rid of all my cards. How was I going to have access to my money anytime & anywhere?  Second how can you function without a credit card, especially since I travel a bit and my wife almost is never carrying much cash? Here is what I came up with and so far it has worked flawlessly for us.

The first thing I did was create a place to stash the money. Since I wanted to have access to this money with the same ease as using a credit card I went for an account with a debit card. I opened a high interest free checking account at a local credit union. This is not the same place we have our primary checking account we use for everyday expenses though. I chose a different bank for our emergency savings for two reasons. One, I wanted to make sure the debit cards we were issued were Mastercard card since our primary debit cards were Visa. Two, I wanted to be linked to a different banking system. Both of these reasons were to ensure that I always had access to money if either Mastercard or Visa had problems or if either of the banks were having technical problems for one reason or another. After working with a credit card fraud team for some time and on the back end of a couple e-commerce websites I realized how inconvenient those issues are and how easily they can arise through no actions of your own. So far to date I haven’t had any issues getting access to my money. 

Now that we had a place to stash the money it was time to actually put some money in there. I first opened the account with $1200 we had set aside in our regular savings account. Now that I was going to only rely on this money instead of relying on this money and credit to get by I know I needed to add to this account as quickly as possible. So for a few months any money we could manage to pull out of our budget went directly into that saving account. At the time I was also working a second job to help knock out our debts too, so any money I made there went into this account as soon as we got a hold of it. This all quickly added up to several thousand dollars and now there’s even more. The funny thing is there is more money in there now than I ever had available on my credit cards.   

This new account was only to be used for an emergency and we BOTH had to agree this was an emergency. Since our marriage is based on trust and shared goals there is no issue with us both having easy access to the money. We trusted each other not to let the other down. Plus if either of us was going to screw this up it was probably going to be me.       

So at this point the only thing left to do is stick to our plan. To date we’ve not had any issues that have made me second guess this plan. We’ve traveled, we’ve rented several cars, we’ve bought things over the internet, basically we’ve have done most everything everybody swears they need a credit card but have done it with a debit card. If somebody were to steal my money or I have to disagree with a transaction (both of which I’ve had happen btw) I just grab my other debit card and put gas in the car just like you would with a credit card but without needing to pay it back next month.

To sum it all up….

1. We have more money available; like I said we have more in the account than we ever had available on our cards.
2. We now earn interest, not a lot but it is adding up. True we didn’t set this money aside for growth but it is a nice bonus to the deal.
3. We’re never owe anybody at the end of the month and if something were to self destruct in our financial lives we won’t be borrowing money at the exact time it gets most difficult to pay it back.
4. We have no need to use credit cards and no need to deal with the card companies – I don’t have any personal credit card horror stories but I sure don’t want to start any

People wonder how I can function without a credit card….I wonder why they can’t?

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